This is the Tom Hartman program.

And welcome back, Tom Hartman here with you and on the line with us is Dr. Trudia Parsi.

Been a while since we've talked. He's a professor of Georgetown. us is Dr. Trithi Parsi.

Been a while since we've talked.

He's a professor of Georgetown University,

author most recently of losing an enemy,

Obama, Iran, and the Triumph of Diplomacy.

Tritha Parsi, TRITA-P-A-R-S-I-G-T-P-A-R-S-I-G-T-P-A-R-S-I-S-I-T-S-I-T-E-S-I-S-I-I-T-E-S-I-S I is the website you can tweet him at T-P-P-E-P-E-T-P-E-T-E-SI-T-E-E-E-T-T I am looking at what's going on with the situation with Iran and John Bolton and Donald

Trump and the Trump administration.

And two things pop out at me and I know that you've written about these and I'm curious if there are more than just these two that concern you.

The first is the probability that by increasing sanctions and making things worse for the Iranian people

that rather than bringing down the mullahs if they're successful in their

internal media strategy at convincing people that the United States is punishing

them rather than their own leadership, it'll solidify their role and the threats of war

will do that as well.

And then the second is that if we cut off all these oil exports from Iran,

then Iran has said in the past, if you do this, we're not going to let any oil go past the straits of

Formuz. And if that's the case case then we're in war with Iran are we

not? Absolutely I mean the Iranians have been making this threat in the past that

they would close the Strait of hormones ifuz if they cannot export their oil.

Either everyone can export their oil or no one can.

And I think there were good reasons to now take that too seriously because at that point

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