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'The Case for Impeachment' is Alan Lichtman's new book- he and others review the facts and think Dems ought to do it- but what if witnesses follow Trump's obstructionist ban on testifying before Congress?- the three powers Congress has to compel testimony.

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Thom Hartmann

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🗓️ 26 April 2019

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Thom's enlightening explanation of the three powers Congress has to enforce a subpoena. But would William Barr cooperate? ----- A long interview with author and historian Alan Lichtman- author of 'The Case for Impeachment', as he joins to Thom to indeed make the case for why we should impeach the criminal in the White House. ----- Thom reads from 'The Case for Impeaching Trump' by Elizabeth Holtzman, one of the Congresspersons who voted to impeach Nixon in the 70s. ------ A deep dive on issues surrounding impeachment - can Trump take it to the Supreme Court, as he is saying he will? Nancy Pelosi's strategy - the legal precedent we set if we don't impeach Trump - Should we delay impeachment until past 2020? What if Trump loses the election and refuses to give up the office? 

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0:00.0

This is the Tom Hartman program.

0:15.0

Greetings my friends, Patriots, lovers of democracy, truth and justice,

0:20.0

believers in peace, freedom, and the American way.

0:23.0

There are three ways, basically, that Congress can enforce a subpoena

0:28.4

to demand that somebody come before Congress. And the first is to basically seek a

0:38.0

civil judgment to sue somebody for contempt of Congress. It's a misdemeanor, it's a $100,000 fine, it's a year in

0:44.7

jail. But convicting somebody of this can take years. So that's probably not the option that Congress should follow.

0:56.0

The second option is what I've been talking about in this program forever,

1:01.0

which is that Congress can refer a complaint to the Department of Justice

1:06.3

for actual criminal prosecution or to have the U.S. Marshals or whatever, you know, get somebody

1:11.9

and drag them over to Congress, but that

1:13.6

means you're asking Bill Barr to help out and Bill Barr is you know a Trump

1:18.5

partisan and has made that quite clear. So there's a third option that Congress used as the only way that they

1:26.7

dragged people in front of Congress in the first hundred years of this republic and

1:30.6

they continue to use it right up until 1934 and in 1930 and the

1:34.7

Supreme Court ruled several times during the first 150 years of the United

1:39.3

States that it was totally legal just fine no problem Congress can do this and that is this concept

1:44.9

of what's called inherent contempt that is contempt of Congress you refuse to

1:48.5

show up for a subpoena you refuse to come if you're invited to speak. We are going to hold you in

1:54.0

contempt and we are going to hold the trial not in the court system. Using

1:59.5

federal judges and federal courts we're going to hold the trial here in Congress.

2:05.9

And we're not going to ask for a federal prosecutor.

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