Could Charlie Kirk’s death be a “turning point” for America?
The Daily Article
The Denison Forum
4.9 • 576 Ratings
🗓️ 16 September 2025
⏱️ 7 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La) urged leaders to “turn down the rhetoric” amid a divisive political climate, saying lawmakers should stop treating policy disputes as an “existential threat to democracy or the Republic.” I would like to respond by simply encouraging our nation to follow Charlie Kirk’s example. But our divisive culture has gotten where we are for a reason, and it’s not from a lack of examples to the contrary. “Speaking the truth in love” is our only way forward, but to do either and much less both, we must be empowered by the One who is the truth and who is love.
About Denison Forum and The Daily Article
Today's Daily Article was written by Dr. Jim Denison and narrated by Chris Elkins. You can read this article on our website. You may also receive it in your inbox by subscribing to our newsletter.
NOTE: Denison Forum is a fully donor-funded nonprofit ministry. To support our calling, please donate today.
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | Good morning and welcome to Denison Forum's Daily Article Podcast. It's Tuesday, |
| 0:11.1 | September 16, 2025. I'm Connor Jones, co-host of the Culture Brief podcast here at Denison |
| 0:16.1 | Forum, filling in for Chris Elkins and narrating today's daily article authored by our co-founder |
| 0:20.8 | and CEO, Dr. Jim Denison. To paraphrase Shakespeare, there are times when you need to |
| 0:27.5 | fight fire with fire. When Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, refusing to respond, would only have |
| 0:33.2 | encouraged more attacks on Americans. Russia's recent drone incursions in NATO countries, Poland, |
| 0:37.7 | and now Romania, are raising fears of war. Poland's prime minister said his country is the |
| 0:42.4 | closest we have been to open conflicts since World War II. Ignoring such aggression is likely |
| 0:48.4 | to encourage further aggression. However, there are other times when fighting fire with fire |
| 0:53.4 | only accelerates the conflagration. |
| 0:55.6 | For evangelical Christians in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination, this is one of those times. |
| 1:01.3 | House Speaker Mike Johnson told Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan on Sunday, I think this could be a turning point for our country. |
| 1:08.3 | He urged leaders to turn down the rhetoric, amid a divisive political climate, |
| 1:12.7 | saying lawmakers should stop treating public policy disputes as an existential threat to democracy |
| 1:17.3 | or the republic. Johnson continued, saying that calling people Nazis and fascists is not helpful. |
| 1:23.1 | There are some deranged people in society, and when they see leaders using that kind of |
| 1:26.6 | language so often and now increasingly, it spurs them onto action. We have to recognize that reality and address it |
| 1:32.8 | appropriately. He added that he's heartened to know that lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are |
| 1:37.4 | stepping up and saying that and addressing it. Charlie Kirk would agree. A commentator who knew him |
| 1:42.7 | personally for many years wrote on the day he was |
| 1:44.8 | killed, if I had a single word to capture him, it would be gracious. We could disagree about anything, |
| 1:51.3 | and we did, but he would, without fail, engage civilly and explain his point of view. |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Denison Forum, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of The Denison Forum and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.

