parsing chances for a new government shutdown as Saturday dawns.

Let's update the possibility of a federal government shutdown late this week,

given a dispute over reform and funding for the Department of Homeland Security,

which also includes immigration and customs enforcement.

ICE does have the money to keep going even during a partial shutdown.

Marketplaces Nancy Marshall-Gensur joins us now to explain.

Well, David, ICE would essentially be insulated from the effects of a shutdown. And that's because

it has a giant pot of money at its disposal, extra funding over and above its official budget,

which the Senate is fighting over right now. And

this is extra cash from President Trump's tax and spending bill, known as the Big Beautiful Bill Act.

It gave ICE $75 billion. Normally essential federal workers would be required to work without

pay during one of these. Will ICE agents be paid if the

government closes again? Well, during the last shutdown just last fall, ICE agents did work without

pay initially, but in mid-October, Secretary of Homeland Security, Christy Noam announced they would be paid.

Laura Blessing is a senior fellow at Georgetown University. She told me ICE could dip into the

big beautiful bill money again to keep paying its agents if there is another shutdown. Whether or not

they would be paid exactly on time isn't something that I want to speculate about. That being said,

there are funds available for them to be paid again if passed his prologue.

Nancy, Democrats are pushing for reforms to ICE, which is more about policy and perhaps less about money.

But you're in Washington.

What are the odds the government closes yet again as Saturday begins?

They're pretty good, David.

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