Captain, he's got the code it's going to launch.

It's a unit system.

I know this.

It's how all the files of the whole park.

It tells her everything.

Sir, he's uploading the virus.

Eagle One. The package is being delivered.

Hello out there on the internet.

I am Matthew Galt, and this is Cyber.

Have you noticed that your internet is kind of shitty lately?

Does Spotify Smart Shuffle keep playing the same cure song over and over again?

Does a quick Google search give you page after page of obvious advertisements want to leave facebook behind but that one group

chat just won't let you go well have i got the book for you the internet con how to seize the means

of computation it's a little bit history. It's a little bit

manifesto. And it's all about one simple concept that can help us get out of this mess.

Interoperability. Here with me today to discuss is the book's author, Corey Doctoro. Dr. O is a writer,

activist, and journalist. He's motherboard through and through. And I'm so happy to have him back on the show.

We're going to pick up the conversation in media res, as they say, with Dr. O telling us about a dual

book launch that he just did with Brian Merchant, who, if you'll remember, was on the show last week

talking about the Luddites. Dr. O's going to tell us his thoughts on that Luddite missive before

getting into his own work.

The book is so good. You know, I blurbed it and all, but it's just awesome.

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