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Coronavirus Tests China's Surveillance State

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2020

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

Over the last month, as coronavirus spread across China, Xi Jinping’s vast surveillance and censorship infrastructure went into high gear. But with outrage growing over the death of a beloved doctor, and surveillance technology under strain, the virus is exposing the limits of the Chinese Communist Party’s techno-authoritarian network.

Guest: Josh Chin, Wall Street Journal reporter covering Chinese politics and tech


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0:00.0

Life in Beijing right now is pretty bizarre, very post-apocalyptic.

0:10.4

This is Josh Chin. He's a reporter for the Wall Street Journal, and he's been living and reporting in China for the last 10 years.

0:17.1

It's a city of 20 million people or more, depending on the time of year, and for the last few weeks, it's been almost completely empty.

0:27.6

I try to go out every day just to maintain my sanity, but it's only really supermarkets and a handful of restaurants that are still open.

0:35.6

No traffic.

0:41.4

You walk down the street, you can actually hear birds chirping, which almost never happens.

0:44.9

You know, and this is one of the most populous cities in the world,

0:49.1

and on most days it's cacophonous, and there are people everywhere.

0:51.4

And now you go out and there's none.

0:57.5

Fear of the coronavirus has kept most people at home for weeks now, since the start of the lunar New Year holiday in late January.

1:00.6

But even though people aren't outside that much these days, it doesn't mean they're not

1:04.2

being watched.

1:05.5

As a journalist in China, Josh is accustomed to it.

1:08.7

But you also kind of get used to it, and I think a lot of people in China just, they have that sense and it sort of fades into the background after a while.

1:16.7

But now with coronavirus, things have escalated.

1:20.3

More than 60,000 people have gotten sick worldwide.

1:23.5

At least 1,300 have died.

1:25.9

And to keep the virus at bay, the Chinese government is paying

1:28.7

even more attention to people's movements in a really granular way. They've started blocking

1:34.2

off apartment complexes. So basically, I think it's every apartment complex. Definitely mine and

1:38.7

all the ones I've seen in my walks around the neighborhood. They're all blocked off so there's only

1:42.8

a single entrance. So that means that they can take the temperature of everyone coming in and out. But the very least, they all blocked off so there's only a single entrance.

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