Cooking, Music, and Creativity With Samin Nosrat and Hrishikesh Hirway

The Dave Chang Show

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Society & Culture, Arts, Food

4.8 • 8.6K Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2025

⏱️ 100 minutes

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Dave makes Snickerdoodles as their name implies: with Snickers. He then brings the...interesting... results to an interview with Samin Nosrat, author of Salt Fat Acid Heat and new cookbook Good Things, and her co-host of Home Cooking and host of Song Exploder, Hrishikesh Hirway, where the trio discusses successful partnerships, perfectionism, and what the future of creative endeavors looks like. Dave finishes with a home food hack: how to make a delicious and dazzling dumpling skirt. Dave also announces the inaugural Ask Dave prize package winner. Send yours in for a chance to win! Send in your Ask Dave questions to bit.ly/AskDaveForm or [email protected]. Learn more about Samin: https://ciaosamin.com/ Learn more about Hrishikesh: https://hrishikesh.co/ Follow Samin on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ciaosamin/?hl=en Follow Hrishikesh on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hrishihirway/ Learn more about Samin’s upcoming tour stops: https://ciaosamin.com/appearances Check out Samin's new book Good Things: https://www.amazon.com/Good-Things-Recipes-Rituals-Cookbook/dp/1984857789?&linkCode=sl1&tag=majordomotv-20&linkId=93c3c814fceac98da6ed148e9a0e2885&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl Check out Samin's new Substack, A Grain of Salt here: https://ciaosamin.substack.com/ Check out the Home Cooking podcast: https://homecooking.show/ Check out Hrishikesh on Recipe Club: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RECn7sAhFsM Check out the Song Exploder podcast: https://songexploder.net/ Check out Hrishikesh's Netflix show Song Exploder: https://www.netflix.com/title/80992997 Check out Samin's Netflix show Salt Fat Acid Heat: https://www.netflix.com/title/80198288 Check out Hrishikesh on Recipe Club: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RECn7sAhFsM Check out GoodBoyNoah’s Snickerdoodles recipe: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDX07Uwp0gc/?hl=en Learn more about Hillstone Restaurant Group: https://hillstone.com/ Learn more about Bibigo Mandu: https://www.bibigousa.com/collections/dumplings Read The New Yorker profile on Momofuku Ssam Bar: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2006/10/16/momofuku-ssam-bar Learn more about Benton’s Ham: https://www.bentonscountryham.com/ Read the Kyle Chayka article Samin and Hrishikesh mention: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2024/jan/16/the-tyranny-of-the-algorithm-why-every-coffee-shop-looks-the-same Learn more about Kismet: https://www.kismetla.com/ Learn more about Calif Chicken Cafe: https://www.califchickencafe.com/ Learn more about Sarah Kieffer’s pan-banging cookie: https://www.thevanillabeanblog.com/pan-banging-chocolate-chip-cookies/ Learn more about the coconut water soup stock recipe Samin mentions: https://food52.com/recipes/78595-yi-jun-loh-s-one-pot-coconut-water-abc-soup?srsltid=AfmBOorwKoG734T0MjFc6sn5fnE23snRZiM4nHUxMzP2St5iNFh2hMiP Learn more about Samin testing her coffee: https://ciaosamin.substack.com/p/some-notes-on-cold-brew-coffee-testing Learn more about the book Hrishikesh mentioned: https://www.amazon.com/Conversations-Walter-Murch-Editing-Film/dp/0375709827?&linkCode=sl1&tag=majordomotv-20&linkId=0fc3ede5b2d6402a7d33b4ac3b079157&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl Watch Hrishikesh talk about the poem One Art: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylcxKnn32D0 Learn more about Asian Legend Toronto, which inspired the mandu lattice tip: https://www.asianlegend.ca/home.php Subscribe to the show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thedavechangshow. Subscribe to Recipe Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@recipeclubofficial. Submit your favorite food moments in your favorite movies to majorfoodporn.com. Join our community Discord on majordomo.com. Free Grubhub+. It's on Prime. *Additional terms apply* Host: Dave Chang Guests: Samin Nosrat and Hrishikesh Hirway Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer and Kelsey Rearden Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Editor: Stefano Sanchez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	It's so funny because when you look at the guys, that's never a topic of conversation. Yeah. What you look like? Yeah. Did you watch the football last night? It's never about, I'll watch your skincare routine. Whereas women walk into a room and because we've been taught to be pitted against each other. Yeah. Not always, but sometimes there's, oh my God, you know, I can't. It's a bit of a barrier. Yeah, yeah. and it shouldn't be there.
0:01.1	We should be trying to change that stereotype. always, but sometimes there's, oh my God, you know, I can't. A bit of a barrier. Yeah, yeah, and it shouldn't be there.
0:21.6	We should be trying to change that stereotype, believing that there is space for everybody.
0:27.6	Hey guys, Dave Tengere. We are at our studio. We're studio to downtown Los Angeles at the row.
0:33.6	I have two guests today, Rishi Keshehay and Samin Nosrat. You may be familiar with
0:40.3	Rishikesh and his great podcast song Exploder and he had the Netflix series and his partner
0:47.0	and crime on home cooking is none other than the great prolific chef author, bestselling, etc.,
0:53.4	world class Samin Nos, and she has a new
0:57.2	cookbook out as well. They're close friends. Samin doesn't have a lot of cookie recipes. She has a
1:03.6	lot of desserts. I'm a terrible pastry chef, but stay tuned and you'll see what I'm making.
1:11.3	This episode of the Dave Chang Show is presented by Prime.
1:14.1	You've got five hungry friends in your living room.
1:16.4	The drinks will only hold them for so long.
1:18.5	I know the feeling.
1:19.9	I also know that sometimes back in the kitchen, it's absolute chaos.
1:24.0	Meat overcooked, potatoes under, too much salt in the sauce, too little sauce for the noodles.
1:29.9	Luckily, you get free Grubhub Plus with Prime.
1:33.3	So with a few taps, dinner saved, and so is your reputation.
1:37.4	Free Grub Hub Plus, it's on Prime.
1:40.6	Additional terms and fees apply.
1:45.8	Welcome to the Dave Chang Show, part of the Ringer podcast network, part of Major Dome Media.
1:49.6	Thank you, Al-Latango, as always.
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