Conversations: Old Tales, New Media, The EPIC (!!) Takeover w/ Christie Vogler, Joe Goodkin, and Joel Christensen (Part 2)

Let's Talk About Myths, Baby! Greek & Roman Mythology Retold

Liv Albert

History, Comedy, Arts

4.8 • 5.5K Ratings

🗓️ 2 May 2025

⏱️ 99 minutes

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Summary

Finally, the second half of Christie Vogler's EPIC takeover episode. Christie speaks with Homerist Joel Christensen and modern Homeric bard Joe Goodkin about the intricacies of EPIC, modern musicals as reception, and all their favourite moments from EPIC The Musical! If you're keen for more EPIC talk listen to the Movies We Dig episode Christie mentions!

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CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.

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0:00.0	Delve into something dark and fiery with a border dark chocolate ginger biscuit.
0:15.9	Get swept up in something sweet and zesty with lemon drizzle melts.
0:20.5	Unwind with something buttery smooth with Viennese whorls.
0:25.8	Border biscuits.
0:27.9	Great with a quick cupper,
0:30.0	but glorious with a gripping podcast.
0:35.3	Made for a higher biscuit purpose.
0:38.3	The Hello, this is, let's talk about myths, baby. And I'm your host, Christy Vogler, from the podcast Movies We Dig.
1:14.0	You might be wondering why I'm here today.
1:16.5	Well, Liv is off in London doing some awesome things.
1:21.6	And I am taking over to further discuss Epic, the Musical Musical with some very special guests.
1:28.3	Joining today's conversation is Joel Christensen, Professor of Classical Studies at Brandeis University, and Joe Goodkin, who's a Chicago-based musician and Modern Bard, who composed and performs two modern folk opera retellings of Homer's epic poems, which if you haven't
1:45.3	checked those out yet and you like Epic, I highly recommend. And this was really an excellent pair
1:51.6	to bring in this conversation about Epic the musical and the process of this new media
1:59.0	looking at a very old story. I really wanted to bring these two on,
2:06.1	in particular, because we had an excellent conversation with them about the film, The Return,
2:12.0	which is also a new take on Odysseus and his return home to Ithaca.
2:18.9	And I think some of the similar hangups that we have with the film help inform us of how we can engage with Epic.
2:28.8	Now, if you've not listened to the previous episode where I introduced Live to Epic with a song voted on by
2:37.1	her listeners, you should go listen to that first because, you know, maybe it's not a fair
2:42.9	process because Liv's reaction to the one song that was chosen is missing context.
2:49.4	And as an archaeologist, I think context is important.
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