There's a sinful tendency that a lot of husbands and wives fall into.

Here's Shannon Popkin.

Our hearts are bent on having and keeping and taking control,

and our husband's bent is often passivity.

This is the Revive Our Hearts podcast with Nancy DeMoss Walgamy, author of Surrender,

The Heart God Controls.

For April 23rd, 2025, I'm Dana Gresh.

Well, we're continuing our conversation today with Shannon Popkin, who's a wife, a mom,

a blogger.

She blogs sometimes at the True Woman blog.

And if you don't follow that blog, you need to.

Shannon and many other women contributors write some great posts there for women in every

season of life.

Go to revive our hearts.com and look for the true woman blog and lots of great wisdom there.

So Shannon, you've been a part of our ministry for a number of years doing that.

And you've written a book that we're talking about this week that I think touches into something

that's very deep and personal and important for all of us as women in particular.

It's called Control Girl, Lessons on Surrendering Your Burden of Control from seven women in the Bible.

And I appreciate how vulnerable and honest you are about your own battle with control and that it was kind of your own challenge

in that area that drove you to the Word, which is where all our challenges should drive us

to the Word to find answers. So thank you for letting God deal with you in this really difficult

area. Thank you for writing about it. It's a message I think we all need

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