Welcome to the ThoughtWorks podcast.

My name is Rebecca Parsons.

I'm one of your recurring hosts and I'm delighted to be here today with the authors of the book Continuous Delivery.

Dave Farley and Jess Humble. What did each of you tell us a little bit about what you've been up to?

So, Joe, do you want to start?

Sure.

So since leaving ThoughtWorks, I've done various things.

I worked in the US federal government in a team called 18F as part of the

Obama Tech Surge.

I went and co-founded a startup, DevOps research with Dr Nicole Forsgrin and we did a whole bunch of

research into how to build high performing organizations.

We assessed companies and we were acquired in December 2018 by Google where I now work.

I also teach at UC Berkeley.

And Dave? Yeah, since I left for

works, I built one of the world's highest performance exchanges, worked in a trading company

and helped them to adopt continuous delivery. And about five years ago, I started my own

business working as an independent consultant advising organizations around the world on improving their software engineering approach in the context of continuous delivery.

I spend a lot of time doing that kind of thing and writing and blogging and talking conferences and stuff.

Okay. So continuous delivery. It's one of those terms that seems to mean a lot of

different things to a lot of different people. One of the things that was actually mentioned,

by the way, I should say, we are at the delivery conference here, which is a more technically focused conference organized around the principles of continuous delivery and DevOps.

And I will let these two rant on the relationship of those words.

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