Contest or coronation
Red Lines
BBC
4.4 • 78 Ratings
🗓️ 7 January 2026
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Mark Carruthers weighs up the options for the UUP leadership with Gareth Gordon, David McCann, John McCallister and Linzi McLaren.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
| 0:06.1 | March 2012, that's how far back you have to go to find the last contest for the leadership of the Ulster Unionist Party. |
| 0:13.7 | Mike Nesbitt famously beat John McAllister to the prize on that occasion, and since then there have been four leaders, one of whom Mr. Nesbitt, has |
| 0:22.0 | served twice and is now poised to hand the baton on again. We now know by the end of this month. |
| 0:28.8 | I'm Mark Carruthers. In this edition of Red Lines we're looking at the battle for succession. |
| 0:32.8 | If in fact there is a battle at all, there could be of course yet another coronation. |
| 0:38.4 | We'll hear from two former elected representatives from the party shortly, but first let's bring in our political |
| 0:42.8 | correspondent, Gareth Gordon, and the deputy editor of Slugger O'Toole, Dr David McCant. |
| 0:46.7 | I try to work out where we are on this moving story. Gareth, first of all, just about an |
| 0:53.7 | hour ago, the Ulster Unionist Party confirmed that its nomination process is open and will close next Thursday the 15th of January. |
| 1:03.1 | Now, the EGM to elect the new leader is going to be Saturday the 31st of January and two names seem to be in the frame to succeed Mike Nesbitt. |
| 1:10.8 | The newbie, John Burroughs and the current deputy leader Robbie Butler. |
| 1:15.0 | But as we speak, we still can't be sure there's going to be a contest. |
| 1:19.5 | No, we can't. I can be fairly sure that John Burroughs will be putting his name forward. |
| 1:26.2 | When that happens, I don't know. |
| 1:28.5 | I was and I still am kind of anticipating it tomorrow, |
| 1:33.1 | which would be for the benefit of those people |
| 1:34.6 | not listening to this today Thursday. |
| 1:38.1 | But I understand from the Burroughs camp |
| 1:41.0 | that Mr. Burroughs is having a final meeting with his people, but there's |
| 1:47.2 | nothing to indicate that it's not going to happen tomorrow. |
| 1:50.6 | The big unknown, I think, is Will Robbie Butler, the current deputy leader of the party, |
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