Contemplation With Carmen Acevedo Butcher
Everything Belongs: Living the Teachings of Richard Rohr Forward
Center for Action and Contemplation
4.8 • 723 Ratings
🗓️ 5 November 2024
⏱️ 82 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation. To learn more, visit cac.org. |
| 0:07.6 | Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the Everything Belongs podcast. I'm Mike Petro. It's good to be joined by |
| 0:12.2 | the one and only Mr. Paul Swanson. Paul, it is so good to see you. So good to see you. And gosh, |
| 0:18.8 | what a fun conversation this was with Richard and with Carmen later on. It's a joy to, I have to pinch myself. We get to have these conversations on these incredible texts about these incredible themes. Yeah, I can't believe it. |
| 0:34.5 | Yeah, it's so awesome. And just to remind our listeners, this season, we're going |
| 0:38.1 | through Richard's book, Eager to Love the Alternative Way of Francis of Assisi. And what's amazing |
| 0:44.2 | is you don't have to read the book with us to listen to the episodes because they're so rich and |
| 0:50.2 | there's such good conversation. But if you want to, this week we're talking about chapter five, contemplation, a different way of knowing. |
| 0:59.3 | And it is so, so good. |
| 1:01.2 | We get to talk to Carmen Acevedo Butcher, one of our favorite teachers and friends. |
| 1:05.8 | And we get to go join Richard in his living room for an intimate chat about how contemplation came into his |
| 1:13.3 | life and what it means to him now. Yeah. And I felt like we went back to some like the |
| 1:18.9 | baseboards of contemplation with Richard talking about, you know, bearing the image of God |
| 1:25.0 | and what does it mean to grow in likeness? And we got into some |
| 1:28.3 | Eastern Orthodox language around theosis and divinization. And what does that mean? And how, |
| 1:35.3 | what does it mean for those of us today as we seek to live in this growing expansive participant |
| 1:41.8 | of seeing? You know, I feel like Richard kind of, |
| 1:45.0 | the lights get a little bit brighter on conversations |
| 1:47.9 | that have to do with contemplation |
| 1:49.5 | because it's been such a lighthouse for him, |
| 1:53.4 | something that's really been a North Star. |
| 1:57.3 | What's your impression when you're in those conversations |
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