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Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

99% Invisible

SiriusXM Podcasts and Roman Mars

Arts, Design

4.828.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2026

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

Roman and Elizabeth discuss Article IV, which outlines the relationship between states and between states and the federal government. California Attorney General Rob Bonta is our guest this month.

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0:00.0

This is the 99% of visible breakdown of the Constitution.

0:05.2

I'm Roman Mars.

0:06.4

And I'm Elizabeth Joe.

0:07.9

Today we are discussing Article 4, which talks about the relationship between the states and between the states and the federal government.

0:14.7

We're also skipping ahead a bit and adding the 10th Amendment to this conversation because that also talks about the states.

0:21.6

Our guest for this episode is California Attorney General Rob Bonta.

0:25.4

State attorneys general provide legal counsel to their state's government, oversee state

0:29.5

prosecutions, and represent the public interest in a variety of cases.

0:33.6

They also have the responsibility of protecting their state citizens from federal

0:37.2

overreach.

0:38.4

What constitutes an overreach can vary widely depending on the state's political leaning and who's in control of the federal government.

0:46.5

During the Obama and Biden administrations, red states sued the federal government over issues like Medicaid expansion and environmental regulations.

0:55.7

Now, blue states like California have sued the Trump administration dozens of times for things like withholding federal

1:01.3

funding and deploying the National Guard without consent of the state. Attorney General Bonta

1:07.0

talks about some of these lawsuits and why he believes the Constitution is on his side.

1:11.6

But first, Elizabeth takes us through what we need to know about Article 4 and the 10th Amendment.

1:17.8

Okay, so unlike Articles 1, 2, and 3, which we've already talked about, they set up the federal government and get a lot of attention.

1:25.3

Article 4 does not get too much love.

1:29.4

Most people have no idea what it's about.

1:31.8

It's not thought of too often.

1:36.6

But it is an important source of powers and protections for the states.

1:42.2

So when we talk about the relationship between the federal government and that of the states,

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