Conservative Conference: “It’s Tough Being A Tory”
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4.4 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 7 October 2025
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
Today, how much political danger are the Conservative party in?
Adam and Chris are at Conservative party conference in Manchester where some comments from shadow justice secretary Robert Jenrick have dominated the headlines.
In a recording reportedly made during a dinner and published by the Guardian, Jenrick said he had not seen "another white face" in the hour-and-a-half he spent in the Handsworth area of Birmingham filming a video about litter. Jenrick has defended the comments. Adam and Chris discuss this and the general state of the Conservative party.
Adam is also joined by James Cleverly the shadow housing secretary.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
| 0:06.0 | Chris, tell me things that reveal you could only be at a Tory Party conference. |
| 0:10.2 | What, in this building? |
| 0:11.4 | Yeah, blue carpet? |
| 0:13.4 | Well, you can get blue carpet. |
| 0:14.7 | Yeah, you do get blue carpets in other places, don't you? |
| 0:18.0 | What else could there be? |
| 0:20.1 | Margaret Thatcher's iconic outfits to mark the fact |
| 0:22.7 | it's 100 years since her birth? Yes, which is quite something. And you sort of read the history |
| 0:27.4 | associated with them and the particular speeches that she wore them for, the particular moments |
| 0:32.0 | that she was wearing them for. And for me, it's that, there's two things. One is the ongoing reverence with which she is held 35 years after she left office. |
| 0:44.3 | But the, the other observation I would make is that this is a party, for better or worse, and you hear both of these accounts privately from conservatives, about the extent to which there should be still a reverence around someone from such a long time ago because some think that |
| 1:00.1 | there's almost a karaoke thatcherism that goes on and that this is a different era and all the |
| 1:05.5 | rest of it. Equally, you'll hear people privately within the Labour Party saying we'd never be able to do the same thing about Tony Blair, |
| 1:13.7 | you know, |
| 1:14.3 | an equally electorally successful leader, |
| 1:17.4 | because there are plenty of the Labour Party |
| 1:18.7 | who really don't like the legacy of Tony Blair. |
| 1:21.7 | They have to go back to Atlee, for one. |
| 1:23.1 | They can all agree on. |
| 1:24.4 | Yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| 1:24.9 | Whereas conservatives, as I say, |
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