It's better off for everybody if we actually just don't start opening these doors.

If there was all this understanding and knowledge, why does it go on and then why does it stop going?

They get into the occults, they do rituals, and it coincides with their success.

Right.

The public can't help but get into an argument about, is this or is this not true?

One of the British members of parliament, that was one of

his colleagues. Jeffrey Epstein's essential father-in-law. I have watched where incredibly powerful

people seem to be above the law. I mean, look what happened in the last few years, with celebrities.

I don't bring this up. We got to go viral here. Keep keep going conrad flin welcome back to the tmo show

the first guest i've ever had back i'm excited this is our own double album well it's kissed

alive too i think that's what we're going with um anything you want to jump in on before i go down my particular rabbit hole? I mean, we've

caught a little fire online. That's interesting. We've good business together in wrestling

parlance. Yeah, well, I want to ask you about wrestling at some point. Sure. Yeah. Well, I'll actually

ask you. A friend of mine wanted me to ask, you once said that in music and rock history,

the logic of wrestling and marketing is very similar to how pop works.

In terms of pop stars are marketed or can be marketed in a way that's not unlike wrestling.

In terms of getting someone over, marketing, what kind of group,

are there any acts, including The Smashing Pumpkins,

that you have ever analogized to a pop act?

We're like, this guy's kind of like,

it's like I know Bob Dylan was famously influenced by Gorgeous George.

Oh, I see.

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