Here's what we found early on. We found that people were treating this like software. They were treating as if it's something you have to learn, which is, by the way, the history of technology. You have to learn how Excel works and PowerPoint works. You have to learn how to speak a language. You have to learn calculus. Like your brain, you can't just like skip to the end and say, okay, now I've got it. But what we found was that AI had nothing to do

with that because there's nothing to learn. People keep thinking you have to learn how to prompt.

And our argument is prompting is literally talking. This is literally like texting a person that knows

everything. Nothing more, nothing less. So why is it hard? That's the big question. And the reason it's hard, in a nutshell,

excuse me, in a nutshell, is that the brain, the human brain has a very hard time looking at

software and understanding that this is software that behaves like a person because we've never

seen it before. So we've built out a lot of frameworks around that,

and I think they work.

Welcome to Franklin Covey's On Leadership. I'm your host, Jennifer Coliseimo.

On Leadership provides insight to our listeners through discussions with senior leaders, thought leaders,

practitioners with earned experience, all focused on the human side of strategy and transformation.

Our guest today has built a career on the most difficult kind of transformation there is,

the kind that requires equal parts,

courage, and consideration. From the mountains of Nepal, where he founded a non-profit to rescue

traffic children, to the halls of NYU Stern as dean of students, and eventually becoming the chief

AI architect, Connor Grennan has consistently seen

and experienced how humans adapt when the world changes beneath their feet. Now serving as the founder

and CEO of AI mindset, he's a trusted voice in the world of helping leaders navigate into the age of artificial intelligence.

Connor, welcome to On Leadership.

Thank you for having me, Jen. It's great to be here.

We, of course, want to talk with you about your work as the CEO of AI Mindset, and particularly your focus on behavioral leadership components of

AI fluency ranging with organizations as diverse as NASA, Microsoft, and you and I were talking

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