Congressman Jim Himes on the Intelligence Innovation Race
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🗓️ 26 October 2020
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
This month, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence's Subcommittee on Strategic Technologies and Advanced Research released a report entitled, "Rightly Scaled, Carefully Open, Infinitely Agile: Reconfiguring to Win the Innovation Race in the Intelligence Community." Susan Hennessey sat down with Subcommittee Chair Congressman Jim Himes of Connecticut to discuss the challenges the United States is facing with near-peer national competitors in science and technology and the impact on the intelligence community. They talked about the role of China, stemming intelligence community brain drain, the need for basic research and how Congress can heal itself to become part of the solution.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:32.6 | Innovation races never stay one. |
| 0:37.0 | It was a blink of the eye between the United States deploying atomic weapons in Japan to |
| 0:44.1 | the Russians testing one. |
| 0:45.9 | There's no example really of a technology that you can keep in a test uber and a safe |
| 0:50.1 | for very long. |
| 0:51.1 | So what that says is, you know, look, yes, do what you need to do to make sure that you |
| 0:55.9 | are either, quote, winning or a very fast follower, but acknowledge that technology disperses. |
| 1:02.3 | And that points you in a really important but eyes glaze over a conversation which is, |
| 1:07.9 | you've got to start putting in places the protocols and the conventions and the agreements |
| 1:12.9 | and the norms that talk about how we use that technology. |
| 1:17.4 | So it's a false belief that we can win and everything will be good. |
| 1:21.6 | We do want to be up there. |
| 1:22.6 | We want to be at the top of the race, but we also need to do something we haven't done |
| 1:25.7 | in four years, which is devote time and energy to thinking about a world where these technologies |
| 1:30.6 | are dispersed and what kind of rules and norms we want in that world. |
| 1:34.9 | I'm Susan Hennessy and this is the LawFair podcast October 26th, 2020. |
| 1:40.2 | This month, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Subcommittee on Strategic Technologies |
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