More than ever before, Christian women today are bombarded with the empty promises of our secular age.

Idols that promise fulfillment, but ultimately only deliver pain.

Whether it's the lie that our worth is in our looks and abilities, that sex is cheap, that abortion is a right, that we can control our sexual identity,

or that marriage and family will complete us. All of these empty promises are lies that run

counter to the clear teaching of Scripture and God's good plan for us. In our interview today,

I'm talking with Jen Oshman. Jen has served in women's ministry for over

two decades as a missionary and a pastor's wife. She's the mother of four daughters and the author

of Cultural Counterfeits, confronting five empty promises of our age and how we were made for so

much more from Crossway. Let's get started.

Well, Jen, thank you so much for joining me again on the Crossway podcast. Thanks are

having me. This is a joy. In your new book, you make this really interesting argument.

You start off by saying that a big claim that in the last few

decades especially women have been shown some winsome and convincing idols. That's the

phrase that you use that have been especially dangerous and influential in our culture.

So I wonder if you could,

we're getting into these more in detail a little bit, but what are some of those idols that you see as being particularly winsome in our world today? Sure. Yeah, well, I have been in women's

ministry now for a couple decades, and I'm the mom of four daughters. So this is something that

I'm really sensitive to, something I'm in the lookout for, something that, and I'm the mom of four daughters. So this is something that I'm really

sensitive to, something I'm in the lookout for, something that, you know, women are coming up to me

at Bible study and at church and in my discipleship relationships and friendships. So I really have

a front row seat to some of the things that I see our culture promising women, over-promising and

under-delivery. So I go after these five that I feel like come up

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