This is exactly right.

I'm Kate Winkler-Dawson. I'm a journalist who's spent the last 25 years writing about true crime.

And I'm Paul Holes, a retired cold case investigator whose work some of America's most complicated cases

and solve them.

Each week, I present Paul with one of history's most compelling true crimes.

And I weigh in using modern forensic techniques to bring new insights to old mysteries.

Together, using our individual expertise, we're examining historical true crime cases through a 21st century lens.

Some are solved and some are cold, very cold. This is buried bones. Hey, Paul.

Hey, Kate. How are you?

I'm doing well. We've got Easter coming up. What kind of Easter traditions do you guys have?

I mean, do you celebrate Easter, first of all?

You know, we would do when the kids were younger, we would do the Easter basket and hide the eggs type of thing.

Even like when I was a kid, you know, I was born and raised Catholic, you know, so of course

Easter was a big deal and going to Mass and stuff.

But now my kids are older.

I think my wife will get them some basket with chocolates in it, and that's about it.

Oh.

They don't look for Easter eggs anymore,

not even like the plastic kind of Easter eggs? No, thank God. Do you know that? My mom would do hard-boiled eggs, and I would dye them, and then she would hide them, but she would hide them

I feel like the night before, and then they were sitting out until noon or one o'clock the next day.

And then she would use them for deviled eggs. And I think decades later, I said, I don't think this is a good idea.

Should boiled eggs sit out for that long? I mean, you know better than I do. That doesn't seem like a

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