I welcome on to Hollinger and Duncan and John, are you sure you're cool with talking to me five days later?

You don't need that full, that full week to recover.

And yeah, that, uh, that playoff crucible is getting hot.

I think that that's where we need to start.

Yes.

Yeah, which is you more interested to talk about first?

Have you seen a coach get crucipled before?

Well, unfortunately, there's no way to get him out of there.

Well, so obviously, Kenny, I could the, uh, things went pretty poorly for them

down the end.

I felt like he froze, actually.

Like, he just kept it on autopilot and like didn't, he didn't react, you know?

Yeah.

I mean, I think maybe he, you know, as someone who really believes in process that, you know, such things as, you know, let's not take a time out, let's push the ball up after the other team scores in crunch time or Phelan Brunson shooting contested twos over James Harden.

That's actually a good shot for us when we're up by 22, even if he did just make five in a row.

And then I guess, you know, the one thing he did was maybe even overreacting after that,

giving up threes when they, in situations where they really actually, his strategy of force

them to take tough twos would have actually worked maybe in the last two minutes.

But so maybe he just was very focused on like essentially not panicking and not feeling like he was panicking, but because he is kind of a high, strong personality type.

So maybe he went too far in the other direction.

But yeah, do you, if you're going to put, you know, divide blame slash credit,

you know, how much of it is the Knicks playing incredibly well, how much of it is Kenny,

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