Welcome back everyone to the Epic Gardening Podcast. Hope you're doing well.

Kevin Espertu here joined by Liz Zorab, a homesteader from the UK and the author of grounded

a gardener's journey to abundance and self-sufficiency. We were talking in sort of comparing our

climates with Liz and it's quite different in the UK versus San Diego, California. You're

in the middle of a storm right now and we haven't had a rain this entire month. I don't

think and we've had our driest, we've had our driest February in 165 years. I'd love to split

the difference with you if we could but unfortunately we can't manipulate the ecosystem like that.

And speaking of, how do you approach managing the garden in your climate and your ecosystem?

So we've been very fortunate in the place that we're in right now. We are about a quarter

a mile from a tidal river which means that we get the warmth of the Gulf Stream, comes across

the Atlantic, warns the water that comes up the stream and our little enclave here is

really quite warm. We're about two degrees Fahrenheit warmer on this side of the river to

the other side of the river. I'm not quite sure why, but we are. And it means that we've

been able to build a garden that has different pockets in it. We're on eight tenths of an

acre, which is four fifths of an acre. And across that there are different patches,

some hold the frost, others are particularly windy. And others are, I get very still and quite

humid and because we're so close to the water, it is a very humid environment, but not humid

hot except for a very short amount of time in the summer. It's just humid and cold for quite a

lot of the year. And I think as I was saying before, we don't get this very, very cold.

We don't get an extreme cold here. So there's quite nice even keel. And I was listening to

Charles Dozing talk about the climate in the UK as being, as an oceanic temperate climate.

So we get a huge amount of influence from being surrounded by water. And as I said, in this

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