Hey, this is Trey. Thank you for joining us for a Tuesday edition of our podcast.

We have one of my favorite people on the planet here to talk about, well, here's what we're going to do.

We're going to do kind of like what we used to do.

I would lay on the couch in the apartment and pretty much say whatever came to mine,

and he would diagnose it.

He majored in psychology, and then he got a sci-D, and he is a clinical psychologist.

He also testifies in court.

He's really good on research.

He's really good on everything, but I've known him since we were 17 years old. I kind of consider him to be my own personal

psychologist. He's fired me, I think a half dozen times, but I think in Texas, you really

can't fire a patient without their consent.

So technically he's still my psychologist.

His name is Dr. Kevin Clark Gilliland.

Dr. Gilliland, I want to talk about the holidays and a dichotomy that I have detected within them.

Are you game to do that?

Yes.

And if we're going to go old school like we did back before Al Gore invented the Internet,

yes, you will share your thoughts.

And then when I share some ideas, you can argue.

Now, unfortunately, you have one of the keenest minds I've been around.

And your wit is razor sharp, as I'm sure everybody that's still listening already knows.

So let's tease out some good old common sense.

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