Welcome to Let It Be Easy with Susie Moore.

I can't tell you how much I was looking forward to sharing this conversation with Deb Roberts for you.

Deborah is a friend of mine for years now. We met when she joined my five minutes of famous program. She was in the first couple of hundred people who did years ago and she's attended my live pitch please events in New York City and I've gotten to know her over the years in person, which I've absolutely loved.

Deborah, formerly speaking, is an author, a conversation expert, a developer of the relationship protocol communication model,

a trauma consultant, and a licensed clinical social worker. Her bio is certainly very impressive. She does lots of cool work with organizations, with individuals.

But what I care most about when it comes to this conversation and what it is I've learned from Deborah is that she really shows us how to talk to each other.

Now this should be obvious, right? We should know how to communicate. It's almost as if, you know, being a good communicator should be this in-built skill that we have as human beings.

But we simply don't, right? It's so common that we'll avoid a tough conversation for years,

we'll let our relationship suffer even die in our personal lives in the workplace

because we often don't know how to handle and approach conversations

that can feel confronting and uncomfortable. And oh my gosh in this interview

Deb gives you the perfect framework for how to do it, how to make it real, how to engage

in a conversation with someone that you've been dreading, that you've been putting off, that maybe makes you feel sweaty and uncomfortable with your heart racing.

She really simplifies it and makes it accessible and breaks down the value of what some basic very fundamental communication skills can do for your work, for your life, for the relationships that matter most to you.

And truly if I could almost like force everyone in the

world to listen to this episode I would because it's something that's not

taught and it's something that can absolutely transform our life experience and you know my

favorite world is ease it really allows our lives to be easier so I'm so excited to

bring you my conversation with Deborah Roberts.

Deb Roberts, lucky us having you today.

Oh my gosh!

Welcome to the Let It Be Easy Podcast, Deb!

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