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Committed: 1. What Kind of Person Goes to Prison for Their Politics?

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Philosophy, News, Politics, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 22 April 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

In episode one of Committed, Clare Hymer and Rivkah Brown meet the imprisoned Just Stop Oil activists who took direct action against the climate crisis and faced dire consequences. By blocking roads, climbing bridges and throwing soup at paintings, they made headlines – and became national hate figures in the process. We find out how […]

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0:00.0

I still couldn't believe we were doing it even as we were thrown to soup.

0:07.0

We were put in a van and that was the last time I felt freedom.

0:12.0

I had no idea that two years was on the cards.

0:15.0

If you do go to prison, is that something you could cope with?

0:19.0

And he said yes.

0:20.0

It is horrendous being like dehumanising

0:22.4

this place and just treated like a number in many ways prison is harder on the people we love who are

0:29.0

on the outside if she gets out she needs to come back straight away or let go of what we have.

0:38.3

I do feel guilty because ultimately I have chosen this over her.

0:43.3

The single most effective way to change society is to engage in resistance

0:48.3

for going to prison.

0:49.3

The bigger crime would have been not to act.

1:02.8

We were walking through security to go into the gallery and then going into the gallery toilets,

1:05.4

take off our jumpers under our coats

1:07.2

so we could just unzip our coats and show our t-shirts.

1:10.6

It's October 2022.

1:13.5

Anna Holland is in the National Gallery in central London, about to do something that will change

1:18.9

their life forever.

1:21.5

I was very much on autopilots at that point, I think, just sort of going through the motions and just trying

1:29.8

with my hardest not to think about what we were going to do meant, trying not to think

1:35.1

about, you know, all the things that could possibly go wrong.

1:37.9

Anna had been a normal 20-year-old until the spring of that year.

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