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Autocracy in America

Coming Soon: A New Season of Autocracy in America

Autocracy in America

The Atlantic

News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.8999 Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2025

⏱️ 3 minutes

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Summary

The former world chess champion and lifelong democracy activist Garry Kasparov guides a new series of conversations about society’s complacency with liberal values and how this carelessness has fueled a democratic retreat—and a new belligerence among dictators. New episodes launch every Friday, starting July 11. Get more from your favorite Atlantic voices when you subscribe. You’ll enjoy unlimited access to Pulitzer-winning journalism, from clear-eyed analysis and insight on breaking news to fascinating explorations of our world. Subscribe today at TheAtlantic.com/listener. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I know you're going to get into some stuff, some pretty heavy stuff, but this is Gary Kasparov.

0:08.0

I can't believe it.

0:10.0

When I was young, I was lucky, because as a chess prodigy, I could travel outside of the Soviet Union to play tournaments abroad.

0:21.6

And I experienced for myself that life felt different in the democracy.

0:26.6

The world celebrated in 1991 when the dictatorship of the Soviet Union gave way to new democracies.

0:32.6

And I too hoped freedom was on the rise.

0:35.6

Of course, the Empire did not want to let us go easily.

0:40.0

But in the decades that followed, we've seen the steady advance of autocratic regimes,

0:44.9

a new belligerence from dictators and autocrats worldwide, and democracies in retreat.

0:51.1

For dictators, for Islamic Republic, for Putin, for all the autocratic regime, America is first.

1:00.0

Their first target is the destruction of American values.

1:05.0

Even America, a beacon of hope to me and for countless millions of others,

1:10.0

has shown itself vulnerable to the virus of authoritarianism and corruption.

1:14.6

If you lie or your propagandists lie nonstop, then the reaction of the public is to say, right, you know, politics is a dirty game.

1:21.6

I have no idea what's true or what's not true.

1:23.6

I mean, that's exactly what's happening in the United States right now, is techno-fascism.

1:28.3

You called it hypocrisy.

1:30.3

I'm trying to be diplomatic, so I'm a host of the show.

1:33.3

I call it absolutely betrayal.

1:37.3

So I'm fighting the same battle. I fought in Russia.

1:40.3

What I have found is you need people that will speak truth to power.

1:43.3

In Russia, we lost the fight.

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