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The Documentary Podcast

Coming Out of the Shadows in Kenya

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.32.6K Ratings

🗓️ 4 May 2017

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

For generations those who, for biological reasons, don't fit the usual male/female categories have faced violence and stigma in Kenya. Intersex people - as they are commonly known in Kenya - were traditionally seen as a bad omen bringing a curse upon their family and neighbours. Most were kept in hiding and many were killed at birth. But now a new generation of home-grown activists and medical experts are helping intersex people to come out into the open. They're rejecting the old idea that intersex people must be assigned a gender in infancy and stick to it and are calling on the government to instead grant them legal recognition. BBC Africa’s Health Correspondent Anne Soy meets some of the rural families struggling to find acceptance for their intersex children and witnesses the efforts health workers and activists are making to promote understanding of the condition. She also meets a successful gospel singer who recently came out as intersex and hears from those who see the campaign for inter-sex recognition as part of a wider attack on the traditional Kenyan family.

Helen Grady producing.

(Photo: Apostle Darlan Rukih, an intersex gospel singer)

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is the BBC.

0:05.0

The boys are playing football and the girls on the side are playing a local game called Catty.

0:12.0

Oh I miss her team. on the local game for Patty.

0:13.0

Oh, I miss her tea.

0:16.0

When you are growing up,

0:17.0

that would have been difficult for you.

0:19.0

Because the girls are playing on one side

0:21.0

and the boys on the other side,

0:22.0

it would be difficult for you to choose.

0:24.0

Yeah yeah it was very very difficult. I am An soy, BBC Africa's health

0:29.7

correspondent. For this week's assignment on the BBC World Service, I'm in Western Kenya with a person who's hard to define.

0:37.0

A postal Dalan rookie is tall but elegant.

0:41.0

He takes long confidence strides but moves gracefully across the playground.

0:45.2

Oh, not now me.

0:47.2

Oh, you're the fast to go down. He got hit by the ball. He got hit by the ball. He's been hit again. He's supposed to be out of the game now.

1:00.0

A post of Delon is a successful gospel singer who's founded a church and built a home for

1:06.6

widows and orphans.

1:08.4

It's a place where he is accepted in a way he wasn't as a child.

1:11.6

And we are off to the boy's side now.

1:15.0

This boys are good, they can pass the ball.

1:18.0

Oh!

1:19.0

Ah, snap!

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