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The Politics Guys

Comey Indictment, ACA Subsidies, the MAGA Theory of Power

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

News, Politics

4.4783 Ratings

🗓️ 25 November 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

Mike and Joey open with the spiraling Comey prosecution, where a Trump-aligned U.S. attorney faces judicial scorn for alleged grand-jury missteps that could collapse the case. Mike argues the real play is intimidation and precedent-setting revenge politics rather than a credible legal charge. Joey counters that Comey was central to what he considers the most serious political scandal in decades and sees the prosecution as predictable fallout, while defending Halligan against “rookie mistake” criticisms. Next, they roll into the looming ACA subsidy cliff and the GOP’s strategic paralysis: extend subsidies, rebrand them through Trump-style direct payments, or let the system go over the edge. Mike frames the issue as evidence of a party without a health-care philosophy and warns that voters will torch anyone who lets premiums double. Joey situates himself in the reform-and-replace camp, arguing for a freer-market architecture and suggesting Trump’s instincts align with bottom-up consumer control. After that, they follow the thread into Trump’s governing style, debating whether he represents bold, necessary disruption or impulsive hyper-personalized rule. Mike sees a president driven more by grievance than strategy, surrounded by sycophants who shield him from hard truths. Joey insists Trump’s instincts, energy, and willingness to ditch elite orthodoxies are precisely what makes big-ticket change possible, arguing that populist policy—not personality—is what matters. Then, they take a listener question on executive power and enforcement discretion, especially around immigration raids. Mike presses the boundary between legitimate law enforcement and coercive overreach. Joey stresses constitutional guardrails, arguing that immigration enforcement is squarely federal turf and that the real structural rot is legislative dysfunction, not executive authoritarianism. The guys close with rants and recommendations: Mike honors recently deceased singer-songwriter Todd Snider, playing a clip from one of his signature political tracks. Joey recommends that Steelers fans quit fantasizing about firing Mike Tomlin, praising Tomlin’s consistency and warning that “be careful what you wish for” applies as much to NFL coaching as politics. Mike responds with a full-throated, exasperated Steelers fan rant about Tomlin’s fear-driven conservatism and Pittsburgh’s quarterback purgatory. Conservative Christian, Right Wing, Republican, Straight, White, American Males - Todd Snider (YouTube) The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Check out the excellent Sustainable Planet podcast. Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys. The Politics Guys is part of The Democracy Group, a network of podcasts that examines what's broken in our democracy and how we can work together to fix it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:00.7

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0:01.5

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0:38.9

You know, as I said on the weekend show, there were a number of things I was eager to get to that we didn't

0:44.3

quite have time for on the regular. And one of those is the continuing saga of the Comey prosecution.

0:51.2

Because, of course, you know, one of the, well, many problems with

0:55.8

kind of really pushing legal boundaries is that it can be tough to find qualified people to carry

1:01.4

out your orders after a while. For instance, Eric Sieber, the former U.S. attorney for the Eastern

1:06.1

District of Virginia, when he refused to prosecute former FBI director Jim Comey for lack of evidence,

1:12.3

well, he was forced to resign. And the accusation against Comey, for those who don't know,

1:18.7

is that while testifying to the Senate Judiciary Committee, this was back in 2020,

1:23.5

Comey lied when he responded to a question about whether he'd authorized anyone at the FBI to be an anonymous source concerning investigations involving Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.

1:34.7

And so when Siebert said, hey, not enough information here, not enough evidence, he was pushed out.

1:41.0

Trump replaced him with Lindsey Halligan, who's a former insurance lawyer

1:44.1

turned personal attorney of Trump's with no prosecutorial experience. But she had the most

1:50.1

important quality of Donald Trump, which is loyalty to Donald Trump. Though now it seems like

1:55.8

it turns out that experience, it can matter a lot. In obtaining an indictment of Comey on charges of obstruction and making

2:03.4

false statements to Congress, Halligan may have made several significant errors, at least according

2:08.9

to magistrate judge William Fitzpatrick, who's handling the pretrial matters for Michael, I believe

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