Hey, it's DeConversion Non-Therapists, non-licensed therapists.

This is Karen.

This is Bonnie.

This is not a therapy podcast. It's just a title. Yes, it is. Well, I mean, we're, we, you have to pay for this therapy. $300 an hour? I think that's good. Yeah, we're not therapists. People should know this by now. But Bonnie and I are both two former evangelical Christians. But hey, if you're a Christian, we welcome you. And same with the people of Jewish descent, Catholics, Mormons.

Zoroastrianism.

Definitely the Zoroos is what they like to be called from information I just made up.

But thank you for tuning in.

You guys have been so great by reviewing us.

Our goal is to just get more reviews this year.

We'd really appreciate it.

Now you can do it on Spotify, which I don't think you can write a review.

Wait, is that our goal?

That doesn't seem very lofty.

I think that we can achieve it. It's a kind of goal I like.

What I do is reach for the stars. Get it? Oh, that was good. But yeah, there's some stuff we can do on

Spotify. Like there's a Q&A section now.

I don't know what's happening, but I'll look into it if you all want to interact.

But I did want to say also, this is embarrassing, but this is good.

And we're really trying to work towards this.

What?

Is that Bonnie's like, what is happening?

You just do your work and show up and look pretty, Bonnie.

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