This is like an expensive hard and long-earned self-awareness about this one very specific part of my brain. Let me be clear.

Also, we're bearing mind perfectionists are very good at getting well, not as good at staying well because we

rushed to be well and then it all falls apart.

You are listening to Made of Human also known as the

Mow Pod a podcast hosted by Sophie

Fagan who is a Danish comedian all trying to find out how to do life

But it turns out

Nobody knows Mop.

Nobody knows Mop. I am talking to you at 10 p.m. on a Thursday evening the garden doors.

I am talking to you at 10 p.m. on a Thursday evening the garden doors open and I am freezing all the way into the

core of my soul but my wonderful dog Hank is outside hopefully peeing hopefully doing more than that and I

need to record this and go to sleep so hello that is the context from which I'm speaking to you

this conversation that I had with Catherine Bohard

was recorded on November 21st, 2020, over Zoom.

For some more context, Joe Biden was elected president not too long ago in the US, but at this point

no one still really knows if Trump will allow this.

There is a global pandemic in London is in lockdown,

although we are hearing rumors of a vaccine.

That is the global context.

Catherine Beohad, like me,

lost all live work eight months ago.

She is an Irish queer comedian living in London

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