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For nearly three decades, she's reported the action from the sidelines.

She started very young.

She's covered the NBA, NFL, Olympics, and the college football and basketball national championships.

And now, during these insane times in our world, Michelle Tofoya thinks we need a serious dose of sanity.

This is Sideline Sanity with your host, one of the sanest people on planet Earth.

Michelle Tofoya.

Welcome to Sideeline sanity.

I'm Michelle Topoy.

I'm so excited to have Dave Rubin with us today.

I mean, I don't know how to describe you, Dave,

that would encompass all of what you do into one title.

I mean, you've done standup.

You're a writer. You have a podcast. You have these,

what are you, Dave? How do you call yourself? Well, you know, I'm a singer. I'm a dancer.

I can paint. They say only a few people from Hollywood can do all of those things. You know,

they say Matthew McConaughey, Barbara's Dry Sand and me.

It's a beautiful thing. I mean, I mostly consider myself some guy who talks for a living about

the things that are kind of going on in the world. And I'm trying not to make people crazy more

than anything else because we live in a crazy time.

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