We wanted to create a product that survivors could come into and be really excited and proud of.

I absolutely love the fact that if you were to talk to any of our survivor staff, they do not feel like a special project.

I never wanted to feel like somebody's special project, right?

And they all feel like they're a part of a movement and they're a part of doing something that is bringing change and hope to others.

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Elisa, you know, whenever you meet like another author speaker, you're like, oh, we're like

kindred spirits. We know the ups and downs and we don't, yet you don't know the person's story.

Yeah. I feel that way about small business owners. And of course you do. Just knowing knowing the journey and like witnessing it with my parents.

And so whenever like I see a small business owner and then I see them just take an idea

and a concept and create a product and then create impact behind that product.

And then it grows.

Oh my gosh, I have so much respect for it because I know

it didn't come easy, but online it probably looks super easy and beautiful, especially if the

branding's amazing. I am so excited to talk with Jenny today. Jenny, welcome to God hears her.

I can't wait to learn more about your journey, how you got to where you

are. I am literally not telling anybody right now what you do. I've just teed it up. I would love

for you to introduce yourself to our listeners. Hi. Yeah, thanks for having me. I'm Jenny Barber.

I am the co-founder of Talitha Coffee. We are a coffee company that works with

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