God invites you to share your story. God asks you to trust and obey. God transforms your pain.

And then invites you to be an agent of Shalom. And we see this with all of these mothers.

And as long as they don't say no, no matter what you're going through as a mom, there is transformation and God can use

you and all the pain you've been through to help you be an agent of shalom in your family

and then in the world.

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We're connecting with two really smart women who are also really knowable. And I love that

combination because if I just said smart, I'd go, I don't belong here. But if I said just also the rest of it, we all

belong. So Tara Etlshik and Kathy Twan McLean, you've come together to write this Bible study,

moms at the well, and you've been partnering for a while. It's not like a new thing to really

help moms grow in their faith and in their

understanding of scripture. So Tara and Kathy, kind of cue us up here. How did you guys meet?

And what brought you together, especially on this topic of moms and development?

Well, Tara and I have been friends for a very, very, very long time. She married my colleague, Jeff, who I've worked with in

campus ministry for 28 years now. So we've known each other since you met Jeff and you came as a

student or our ministry at Harvard. And we have had the privilege of walking alongside each other in a lot of different ways. So in the

beginning, it was on campus serving graduate students at Harvard. And then as Tara had kids, it was

in mothering together. We say in the book that I was at the hospital the day after I think her

son, Zach was born and got to hold him.

And she got to encourage me in the very challenging journey.

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