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This is not about you being less than this is about you being fully who you were created to be spread your wings and sore.

A great marriage is always one that has room for us to grow into the fullness of who we were created to be and bring all of our gifts to the table.

That's Bob Paul and he joins us today on focus on the family with Jim Daly along with Dr. Greg Smalley and we're going to be talking about marriage.

Thanks for joining us. I'm John Fuller.

John, I am so pleased to have Bob and Greg back with us today and if you missed the discussion last time, I think you got to get the download, get the app for your smartphone.

Call us, we'll tell you what you need to do to listen in, but it was good stuff and these two men have put together.

I think a powerful treat us on the issue of marriage and both of them work with couples. Bob, of course, is leading the team at Hooper Stored which is our four day intensive program.

And he sees a lot of stuff. He runs the clinicians. That's his job and he gets to really peer into those counseling sessions and see what's happening with folks and he's brought all of that wisdom along with Greg into this great book, Nine Lies that will destroy your marriage.

But the wonderful news is there's truths that will save your marriage and that's what we're going to cover today.

Yeah, and we'll encourage you to call us for a copy of that great book. Our number is 800 the letter A in the word family or check the episode notes for the link.

As you said, Jim Bob directs our Hooper Stored Marriage Intensives. We have three locations and more details of course online.

Greg heads up our marriage team here at Focus and has been here almost 10 years.

Bob and Greg, welcome back to Focus.

Thank you. It's good to be with you. It's always good to be here.

Yeah, it's a good to have you here, honestly. And I'm so appreciative of the work that you do to strengthen marriages through the efforts here at Focus.

You guys both, you're kind of the king pins of that effort and I'm grateful to both of you. So thank you.

I mean hundreds if not thousands of couples have been saved their marriages save because of the work you've done and the Holy Spirit working through you.

So I can't say thank you enough for that sacrifice and what you do for this ministry and for the Lord more importantly.

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