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Colleges Push Back, Ozempic Price Promise, and White House vs. Anthropic

Pivot

Vox Media Podcast Network

News Commentary, News, Technology, Tech News

4.37.6K Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2025

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Kara and Scott discuss more schools saying no to Trump’s college “compact,” the No Kings protests, and the AWS outage. Then, Trump’s promise to slash Ozempic prices sends GLP-1 stocks tumbling. Plus, AI czar David Sacks picks a fight with Anthropic over AI regulation — and Peter Thiel warns of the Antichrist. We're going on tour! Get tickets at ⁠pivottour.com. ⁠Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠⁠. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠⁠. Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠⁠. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email ⁠[email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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