Hello there I'm Chuck Todd. This is the Chuck Todd cast. It is Labor Day, which these

days means college football is back. Forget the start of the fall campaign. Well, actually

it's the start of the fall campaign to see if the same 14s end up in college football

playout. 20b today is Jane Coast. She's the host of the argument podcast in the United

York Times. And as long time listeners of this podcast know, she is a true college football

sub-on. And the last time we had Jane on, I pledged some bider back. For this very reason,

I think on this very weekend. Yes. So Jane, thanks for accepting. It's good to see you.

It's wonderful to be back and it's even more wonderful to be talking about actual college

football. We are. And I want to like, you know, look, one of the things you're probably

going to hear from both Jane and I is we both love college football and think it can be

fixed. This idea that you stop watching the game because you're mad about stuff. I don't

know where you are in this stuff, Jane, but I always, there's like some people who feel

as if, well, they don't do this. So forget it. I'm not watching it. I don't understand

how people are like that. Like, I think that there is I, I mean, it would actually be kind

of nice if I could be like, you know, the sport has gone too far. I have to quit. It's

like, no, no. They're really, I think that we have learned when they started doing playoff

games on New Year's Eve and everyone was mad and yet you still watched when they like,

at this point, I'm aware that like the NCAA and the college football press committee, they

will constantly be saying, we're going to change this. We're going to change that. And

I have learned about myself that apparently I can be pushed really far on this. And so

I'm in. I'm in. Let's do it. I will. Let me start our conversation, though, this

way. My 15 year old son, who I've turned into a total sports, a holic, he's obsessive

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