One, two, three.

Hi, this is Hope.

This is Kagan.

Hi, this is Katie from Washington, D.C.

And you're a left-to-know 57 of No Meathlete radio.

Matt Frazier with Doug Hay here before another exciting interview.

This one with Colin Patrick Gudreau, who is really well known in vegan circles

and someone who I really haven't connected with that much.

He actually wrote a blurb for my book, which was cool. someone who I really haven't connected with that much.

She actually wrote a blurb for my book,

which was cool because we hadn't really met or anything,

but she had been on my publisher.

I think she might even still be, I don't know,

but I probably should know that.

Anyway, she does have a new book out and it's called the 30-day vegan challenge, which I'm

looking forward to talking to it because it's just, I don't know, when I hear about 30-day challenges,

like we've mentioned in the last episode

there I think they're great ways to start a new habit is have a 30-day commitment to doing

something and say you're not going to quit and once you get to the end of that 30 days

then you can assess and say like

okay I don't like running every day or being vegan or whatever it is but then you

have a chance to do that without feeling like you failed so I'm a big fan of

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