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The Kevin Rose Show

Colleen Cutcliffe, Ph.D, Co-founder and CEO of Pendulum, My Crazy Probiotic Experiment (#40)

The Kevin Rose Show

Kevin Rose

Business, Entrepreneurship, Technology

4.92.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2020

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Kevin interviews Colleen Cutcliffe, CEO and Co-Founder of Pendulum. Pendulum produces a novel strain probiotic that restores the body's natural ability to metabolize fiber and produce butyrate. Kevin talks about his results with the probiotics using a continuous glucose monitor. A recent study of Pendulum demonstrated a significant reduction in A1C and blood sugar spikes in people with type 2 diabetes. The study was a U.S. based, multi-site, double-blinded, placebo controlled RCT.

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0:00.0

Hey everybody Kevin Rose here. Welcome back to another episode of the Kevin Rose show. This is a really important episode because it is not that often that you run into and meet a founder and are introduced to a company that has had for me such a big

0:16.8

huge material impact on my health and this is one of those things that it's not

0:22.4

just subjective feeling but it's actually measurable in my blood work and in my day-to-day life in monitoring my glucose levels.

0:32.0

So I'm excited to tell you all about this crazy

0:35.3

probiotic but one of the things that was tricky for me in recording this

0:40.0

episode is how I present this information to you because I didn't want it to come

0:45.5

off sounding like an ad and the tricky part is that I'm a partner of course over at True

0:50.0

Ventures most of you know that and we invested in this company. That's how I actually was

0:55.2

introduced to the company, how I first heard about it. The company did not ask me to record the

1:00.4

podcast, nor are they paying for me to do this in any form including

1:05.9

through their product I actually buy the product directly personally on my own credit card

1:09.8

through their website I'm not reimbursed for it. So there is no exchange of money in any way.

1:15.8

You know, if you follow my newsletter or my podcast over the years, you'll know that this is something I take really

1:20.8

seriously. I don't too pay for play it's just not in my DNA it's not worth the money or the reputation damage.

1:26.8

So but this is a real story of something that happened to me and I'll I guess that's the best place to start off is with the story itself and that is that I first was introduced to Dr. Peter Tia. You may know the Peter Tia drive his podcast. You know he's been a guest on Joe Roggan and Tim Ferris,

1:44.4

a really well-known doctor

1:46.0

that specializes in longevity and prevention of disease.

1:49.4

And so, a Tia brought me on as a patient, I guess about four or so years ago.

1:55.0

We started off by doing a really deep dive into my blood work and doing a slew of different tests,

2:02.0

including what's called a glucose tolerance test and that is

2:04.7

where you drink this really sugary drink it's 100% glucose and you have your blood drawn

2:11.8

before you do the drink so at an in a fasting state and then it's also drawn every I think 20 or 30 minutes for about an hour and a half.

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