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My name's Amy Jay. I am a lawyer, a contract manager, a podcaster, a motivational speaker,

and all-around fun person, in my opinion. I know. That's a little self-serving a little bit.

I concur. Fair enough. Thank you. Co-signed. So I had an interesting life. I was actually a computer

engineer originally when I went to undergrad. My grad was computer graphics. I worked at NASA.

So I had that kind of tech background, but then I got bored, which a lot of people don't realize

that can actually happen when you have a good job and you just get bored. And I was honestly bored at NASA. And people are like, what? You were bored at NASA? I was running numbers. That's really all I was doing. And so there was no challenge for me. And my sister, my twin sister was actually in the process of thinking about going to law school. And I was like, you know, I want to go to law school. I'll do that. That sounds challenging. I feel like if I go to law school, I'll be equipped to kind of just be able to do anything. Sure, it's at a six-figure debt, but why not? I think that would be the move to make. I don't regret that decision. I think I did learn a lot in law

school. I learned confidence. I learned the ability to handle things and look at problems. I learned to

negotiate better at law school. I think life experience helped improve that, but my life has been one

where I decided that I needed to do what made me happy. Law school at that point was. I spent

some time with my sister, had a great time, learned patents, did patent law for about, I guess it was

four years, went to Philadelphia, had fun there with Comcast. I was a contract manager for about

two and a half, almost three years, not quite, and then got pulled back

into the Baltimore Birdland area, and now I'm a contract manager with Care First, which is just as

much fun, less stress, but I'm having a ball. That is a fascinating career path that you took.

Yeah, I don't think you knew all that. No, I didn't. First of all, you were a twin. That's cool. NASA, that's cool. Computer scientists, that's cool. Geez, I'm sitting here learning, like, who are you? I just know the most recent stuff. It's the layers. Yeah. Exactly. That's cool. So let me ask you this. Your background as a computer scientist and the time you spend at NASA, I'm assuming that means you're a pretty analytical person. How does that impact the way you approach negotiations?

So one, yes, I am analytical. I was at UMBC as a Meyerhoff scholar, and so the focus there is

science and further education. And so my mind is kind of geared towards science. And so when I see a

problem, regardless of what it is, whether it's a math problem, science problem, or a problem that

has to be discussed, I look at it from all

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