Collaborating to Counter Violent Extremism Online
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 25 November 2020
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
On this episode of Lawfare's Arbiters of Truth series on platforms and disinformation, Evelyn Douek and Quinta Jurecic spoke with Nick Rasmussen, the Executive Director of the Global Internet Forum to Counter Terrorism (also known as GIFCT). The GIFCT is an organization working to facilitate cross-industry efforts to counter the spread of terrorist and violent extremist content online. It was founded in 2017 by four platforms, but is now transitioning to a new life as an independent organization, which Nick is heading up.
Online violent extremism is one of the most difficult problems of the internet age, and collaboration between companies and governments may be the only way to effectively tackle it. But how can the GIFCT balance this with the need to respect legitimate free speech concerns? How is Nick thinking about the transparency and accountability problems that such collaboration might exacerbate? And why might the GIFCT be one of the most important institutions for the future of online free speech?
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| 1:02.6 | If you're a new company, it's doubtful that your 50th hire or your 100th hiring decision |
| 1:14.9 | will be up. |
| 1:15.9 | Let's hire an extremism or terrorism expert to lead content moderation on our platform. |
| 1:21.9 | You've just got way more pressing priorities as you're building your organization, whether |
| 1:26.3 | that's engineers, other policy officials, whatever. |
| 1:30.6 | So it's these smaller companies, these newer companies where I think there's real room |
| 1:34.7 | scope for gift CT to have near-term impact, bringing more companies into the fold. |
| 1:40.2 | Companies that maybe you and I haven't even heard of or certainly we don't have their |
| 1:43.6 | apps necessarily downloaded on our iPhones. |
| 1:48.1 | I'm Quinted Jurassic and this is the LawFair podcast, November 25th, 2020. |
| 1:55.9 | It's another episode of our Arbiter's of Truth series on platforms and disinformation. |
| 2:00.4 | Today, Evelyn Dwack and I spoke to Nick Rasmussen, the executive director of the Global Internet |
| 2:06.3 | Forum to Counter Terrorism, also known as gift CT. |
| 2:11.2 | The gift CT is an organization working to facilitate cross-industry efforts to counter |
| 2:16.1 | the spread of terrorist and violent extremist content online. |
| 2:19.9 | It was founded in 2017 by four platforms, but now it's transitioning to a new life as |
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