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I'm John Bachelor with Professor Benjamin Carp, Brooklyn College, CUNY Graduate Center,

but most importantly, the author of the new book, The Great Fire of 1776,

The Burning of New York, between September 20th and September 21st, 1776, Washington has now retreated to the north of the city. There will be battles fought over these next weeks.

Washington loses every battle and he wins the war.

That's a story we tell ourselves 250 years later.

It does, however, do a deal to explain what is now about to begin,

which we call here in the 21st century information war. This is the wonderful part

of your book, Professor. Without our understanding of information war, we might have ended with the

unresolved aspect of the fire, who died, who was hanged, and that's all very sad and tragic.

But the information war seems to have been a focus of major names right away.

George Washington knows that he can be accused of this.

But most importantly, to me, Robert Morris and Benjamin Franklin,

what were they in the information war that followed?

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