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The Mother Jones Podcast

Cohen, Guilty. Manafort, Guilty. Now What?

The Mother Jones Podcast

Mother Jones

Scoops, Investigations, News, Journalism, Elections, Politics

4.51.1K Ratings

🗓️ 22 August 2018

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Two top Trump-world figures in disgrace. This week, twin legal developments rocked the presidency: Trump's former campaign boss Paul Manafort was found guilty of tax and bank fraud, and his longtime lawyer Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to campaign finance violations while implicating the president in a crime. MoJo’s DC bureau chief David Corn tells you what happens next. Also on the show: Kansas City mayoral candidate Jason Kander talks to Mother Jones Editor-in-Chief Clara Jeffery about his new memoir, "Outside the Wire"—and one of the best Twitter comebacks we’ve ever seen. And finally, MoJo’s Ben Dreyfuss chats with the author of another new book, “Obama: An Oral History,” Brian Abrams, about how to judge the Obama years, now that we know what comes next. Three fascinating conversations about where America has been, and where it's going.

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0:00.0

This is the Mother Jones Podcast. I'm Jamila King in New York.

0:05.0

As we record this podcast, big news has broken on Trump and Russia and I know I say that every

0:19.5

week but this week it's really really big.

0:22.4

You really have to go back to Watergate

0:24.8

to find a situation in which so many of the president's men

0:28.2

ended up going to jail or facing such charges.

0:31.4

dueling news fronts in the gathering Trump Russia storm.

0:34.7

If Michael Cohen is telling the truth,

0:37.1

the President of the United States conspired

0:39.0

with his longtime lawyer to violate campaign finance law.

0:42.8

David Corn with everything you need to know.

0:44.8

This is far more serious for Donald Trump

0:47.6

than the Manafort convictions.

0:49.4

Also on the show, the Obama years.

0:51.9

How should we think about them now?

0:53.8

Was the former president, a famous idealist,

0:56.8

too idealistic considering what we now know came next?

1:00.4

I mean, we've all had a nervous breakdown

1:01.9

wondering that same thing for the past two years right and now in 2018

1:06.2

Should he be weighing in more? I'm not so sure he has an answer for us author Brian Abrams on his new book, Obama and Oral History, and the biggest successes

1:16.1

and failures of the Obama years, now that we know what happened next.

1:20.7

Also on the show, the secret to knocking on doors and getting out the vote, what people respond to and why, and what it means for the midterms.

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