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🗓️ 24 June 2025
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It is rare to see the President so visibly frustrated (see The Apprentice, circa 2004), but after Iran and Israel seemingly ignored his ceasefire announcement – and his plea on Truth Social, ‘PLEASE DO NOT VIOLATE IT!’ – Donald Trump has come down hard on both sides. In a clip taken this afternoon he exclaimed: ‘These are countries who have been fighting so long and so hard, that they don’t know what the f*** they’re doing.’ Succinctly put by the President.
The exchange of fire could be the expected tit-for-tat seen after the announcement of ceasefires in other global conflicts, but it has dampened the mood at Nato, which world leaders were approaching with cautious optimism, believing the road to de-escalation was clearing. What happens next?
Also on the podcast, Keir Starmer is facing a huge rebellion less than a year after coming into power. Overnight, scores of Starmer’s MPs have signed a reasoned amendment to the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill. This would effectively kill the bill at its second reading in the Commons on Tuesday. Can he de-escalate the precarious domestic situation?
Lucy Dunn speaks to James Heale and Michael Stephens.
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0:52.2 | Prime Minister Kier-Sarmour and other world leaders are attending the annual NATO summit |
0:56.0 | at the Hague today. |
0:57.2 | They're going into the conference with a cautious optimism about the Israel-Iran conflict |
1:01.2 | after Trump announced a ceasefire deal this morning. |
1:03.9 | However, since then, there's been a slight blip that we've seen in the last hour or so |
1:07.9 | where the US President issued a rather course warning to the |
1:11.0 | countries. We can hear that in a clip now. We basically have two countries that have been fighting |
1:18.2 | so long and so hard that they don't know what the f*** they're doing. Do you understand that? |
1:24.9 | Michael, the last 24 hours has been a bit of a whirlwind. Can you talk us through what exactly is going on? |
1:30.4 | It's been a real whirlwind. I don't think I've ever seen 24 hours in the Middle East region quite like it, actually. |
1:37.0 | It looked at one point that All Hell was going to break loose. Iran launched two salvos of missiles at Qatar. |
1:46.6 | Airspace was closed. British and American nationals were told to shelter. But it does appear that there was a high degree of coordination, |
1:51.6 | a sort of performative final act to this Middle East conflict in which the Catteries kind of gave |
1:57.0 | themselves up as the quote unquote sacrificial lam so that Iran could save face. |
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