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Coffee House Shots: Tony Abbott in conversation with James Forsyth

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🗓️ 3 September 2019

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

In this special episode of Coffee House Shots, James Forsyth talks to Tony Abbott, former Prime Minister of Australia. They discuss Britain's Brexit showdown, what an Anglo-Australian trade deal could look like, and the geopolitical threat of China in a post-Brexit world.

Coffee House Shots is a series of podcasts on British politics from the Spectator's political team and special guests. Brought to you daily, click here to find more episodes that are not released on Spectator Radio.

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0:00.0

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0:17.3

Hello and welcome to a special Coffee House at Shots podcast with the former Prime Minister of Australia, Tony Abbott.

0:22.6

James, nice to be here.

0:24.6

Well, Anthony, you're in London. You gave a speech yesterday at Policy Exchange saying that if Brexit fails, Britain fails.

0:31.5

Coming from overseas, how do you see the British political situation as you've landed here?

0:40.0

Look, I should be absolutely straight with you. I'm an incorrigible anglophile. Always have been,

0:47.1

always will be. Britain is an extraordinarily successful and an extraordinarily influential country. If you look at what Britain

0:57.3

has given the world, the Industrial Revolution, the mother of parliaments, the world's common language,

1:03.4

no country on earth has had as much impact on the wider world as Britain. The modern world

1:07.8

has effectively been made in English, if not always in England. So this is

1:13.3

an extraordinary country which has managed to get itself shackled in a European Union, which

1:21.7

I think is holding Britain back, which the British people have democratically decided to leave,

1:29.6

and that vote has been undermined and subverted at every turn by the British establishment,

1:36.3

and at the moment the Parliament is threatening to derail the thing.

1:39.6

Now, I just think that's verging on the unconscionable.

1:43.6

I understand that there are lots of people who were disappointed with the result.

1:48.4

I understand there are lots of people who, for their own perfectly good reasons,

1:54.2

would have preferred a different result.

1:57.1

But the people have spoken, and when the people speak in that way, a Democrat has got to say, okay, we'll do it.

2:06.6

Now, Theresa May was right when she said no deal is better than a bad deal.

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