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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, The Spectator's Daily podcast. I'm Katie Balls. I'm joined by

Fraser Nelson and Robert Jenrick, the minister in the Treasury. So we are into the leadership race

and this week it seems to be coming up Boris Johnson.

The former mayor of London has announced a host of MPs who are backing him, including

Roberts. And so far it seems so good. Fraser, when we first came into this leadership contest,

there was a sense that there would be a stop Boris

campaign in Parliament to, in a way, stop Boris Johnson even getting to the final two. But

so far that doesn't seem to have happened. Yes, and I'm beginning to wonder now if it will ever

happen. The feeling was, only two months ago, that if there was a Tory leadership race that the MPs would

club together and back any two candidates that would stop Boris getting to the members, because

if Boris got to the members, so the argument went, he would be sure to win. But now, when we have a

look at who's got the most MP support, Boris Johnson is number one, Michael Gove is number two. And the person

taking all the fire is Dominic Rab. So normally in Tory party leadership contest, the frontrunner

is the enemy. To be the frontrunner is to have a target on your head and everybody's playing

Stop the Frontrunner. This time we've got the strange situation where

Dominic Rab is the bad guy. Michael Gove and Boris Johnson are getting support. And also,

interestingly, you're getting MPs who backed Michael Gove last time switch her support to Boris

Johnson this time. For reasons I'd be fascinated to hear more from. And I think,

Robert, you're in quite a good position to explain why an MP should make such a shift.

Yes, Robert, you are one such MP who backed Michael Gove in the last leisure contest. And this

week you came out for Boris Johnson. Can you talk us through your journey?

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