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Coffee House Shots: How can the Tories manage Sturgeon's demand for Indyref2?

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🗓️ 14 January 2020

⏱️ 11 minutes

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With Katy Balls and James Forsyth. 

Presented by Isabel Hardman. 

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0:00.0

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0:16.7

Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast.

0:22.4

I'm Iswell Harbin and I'm joined by James Forsyth and Katie Balls. And James, we have a bit of breaking news this morning,

0:26.8

which is that Boris Johnson has written to Nicola Sturgeon saying no to her demands for a second

0:32.7

Scottish independence referendum. Yes, it's not the longest of letters. It basically says

0:37.2

you and Alex Salmon

0:38.5

promised that this would be a once-in-a-generation vote and therefore the UK government will not give

0:43.6

you the powers to hold a second independence referendum. Obviously, the SMP will object to it.

0:49.2

The people will say it's disrespecting the results of a general election in Scotland.

0:53.0

I think this line just about can hold on the grounds that the SMP itself suggested its campaign in the general election wasn't just about independence.

1:01.2

In that final week, there was that pivot towards saying, look, if you just want to stop Brexit, vote SMP.

1:06.6

This will be a much more difficult position to maintain if at the 2021 Holyrood elections,

1:12.1

the SMP and the Greens combined win a majority, because then it will be able to say,

1:17.0

look, we ran on a platform of having a second independence referendum, and we won a majority

1:21.7

in the Scottish Parliament. And it wasn't about Brexit or other issues.

1:26.6

So, but I think it will do for now, but I think that the real challenge for the Tories,

1:31.8

who are having their own leadership contest in Scotland right now,

1:34.8

is to find a way for them and the other unionist parties to stop the SMP

1:38.8

from getting that majority in the 2021 holiday-reuth elections.

1:42.7

And Katie, you recently wrote about how one of the downsides of the recent election result

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