Cody Garrett and Sean Mullaney: ‘For Most Americans, You’re Going to Pay Less Tax in Retirement’
The Long View
Morningstar
4.6 • 915 Ratings
🗓️ 20 January 2026
⏱️ 56 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Please stay tuned for important disclosure information at the conclusion of this episode. |
| 0:05.8 | Hi, and welcome to the Longview. I'm Christine Ben's Director of Personal Finance and Retirement Planning for Morningstar. |
| 0:12.2 | And I'm Amy Arnott, portfolio strategist for Morning Star. Our guests on the podcast today are Cody Garrett and Sean Mullaney. |
| 0:20.2 | They're both advice-only financial planners, |
| 0:22.9 | and they're the co-authors of a new book called Tax Planning to and through early retirement. |
| 0:28.7 | Cody is a certified financial planner and the founder of Measure Twice Money, where he helps |
| 0:33.5 | DIY investors make informed decisions aligned with their values. He also leads Measure |
| 0:39.1 | Twice Money, which is an educational community for financial planners. Sean Mullaney is a certified |
| 0:44.8 | public accountant and head of Mullaney Financial and Tax. He also writes the blog, fitaxguide.com, |
| 0:52.6 | which is focused on the intersection between financial independence and taxes. |
| 0:57.8 | Cody and Sean, welcome to the Longview. |
| 1:00.1 | Thanks for having us. |
| 1:00.9 | Thank you. So glad to be invited back. |
| 1:02.8 | Well, we're excited to have you here and to talk about your book, which is called Tax Planning |
| 1:07.6 | to and Through Early Retirement. So the book is focused on tax planning |
| 1:12.6 | and early retirement. And I'm wondering if you can talk about how you define that. There are people |
| 1:18.7 | who retire very young, like in their 40s, but there are also people who retire a little bit young, |
| 1:24.4 | like in their early 60s. So who are you pitching the book toward? |
| 1:31.9 | Yeah, that's right, Christine. So early retirement, for the sake of this book, we have to decide what are we defining as early retirement. We define that as any time before Medicare eligibility, |
| 1:37.5 | which is typically the month of your 65th birthday. So we actually found a study out there that was |
| 1:41.8 | kind of surprising that around 70% of Americans |
| 1:44.4 | report retiring before them both voluntarily and involuntarily. So I would say with that said, |
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