Coaches Aren't Essential. Here's Why You Need One Anyway.
Chasing Excellence
Ben Bergeron & Patrick Cummings
4.8 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 21 May 2026
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Summary
Coaches and mentors aren't essential — but they might be the best shortcut you'll ever find.
In this episode, we answer Chase Club member David's question about whether coaches need coaches, and explore how Ben has built three very different mentorship relationships, each running on a different value exchange.
You'll learn why reciprocity is the non-negotiable foundation of any real mentorship, and why curiosity, vulnerability, and patience are what you must bring as the mentee. Whether it's a paid business coach, a peer who trades expertise, or a friend who keeps you accountable — the best guidance always helps you see what you can't see from inside your own life.
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| 0:32.6 | Hello and welcome back to another episode of Chasing Excellence. I am Patrick. I'm here as always with Ben. How you doing, buddy? Doing great. Thanks, Patrick. Today we've got another one of our, I don't know what to call them, the mini episodes. We're going to answer a Chase Club members question. We've been doing this once or twice a month for folks who don't know. The Chase Club |
| 0:54.3 | is our exclusive membership. You can learn more at chasingexcellance. Email. If you decide to |
| 0:59.3 | join us, you will get not only the opportunity to get questions into a future episode like this one, |
| 1:03.6 | but you get ad-free episodes. You get the Daily Chase every morning. You get to join our |
| 1:07.6 | Friday Chase Club chat club, as well as full access to our Chase Tracker app. |
| 1:14.3 | So again, check it all that. |
| 1:15.3 | Chasing. |
| 1:15.6 | Sounds good. |
| 1:17.0 | Dot email. |
| 1:17.8 | Here is the question we've got today. |
| 1:20.6 | It's from David. |
| 1:21.5 | Thank you, David, for sending this in. |
| 1:23.3 | He says, or he asks, do you guys have coaches and mentors, both in fitness or in life in |
| 1:28.4 | general? |
| 1:28.9 | We often hear you recommending books or authors, but do you get input from mentors? |
| 1:33.0 | Do you believe it's essential? |
| 1:34.1 | I always hear that coaches need coaches. |
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