Welcome to another Thursdays with Mary Langston and episodic appearances by Trey.

There are a thousand reasons at least that I enjoy doing this podcast, starting with the chance to be with you each week,

and also including the opportunity to visit

with some really thought-provoking guests, from former to sitting members of the House and

Senate, prosecutors and athletes and coaches and psychologists and authors. But I am out this week, but even though I'm out, I thought it would be fun to take a look back at one of those conversations that I enjoyed the most.

So I hope that you all enjoy this encore episode.

And I will be back very soon.

Thank you for listening.

Welcome to turn to my favorite coach and all of college football,

which is not a secret to anybody that listens to this podcast.

Shane Beamer, Coach, how are you?

I am doing well.

Thank you for having me, Trey, and great to see you, hear you from you.

You too. You cannot talk officiating. You will be fined. I can talk about it, and I won't pay the fine, even if it comes. I bring it up only because the LSU game keeps popping into my

mind, the difference between 10 and 2 and 9 and 3. So I'm, I got one foot in the grave, and I still

struggle with this dealing with the perception of unfairness. you have to manage teenagers and young men.

How do you get them through the perception of maybe unfairness?

Or have they moved on and I'm the only one that remembers the LSU officiating?

No, you're definitely not the only one.

You're not the only one at all.

That was certainly tough that day.

And you want to handle that situation as the leader.

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