Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before.

In your church or in your business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody and welcome to episode 29 of the podcast. My name is Carrie Newhoff. I'm so glad

that you're here and I really hope our time together today helps you lead like

never before. I am really excited about today's guests. His name is John Stickle and at age 29 he became the lead

pastor of a church of about 1500 people. Now think about that. If you're 29 years old, that's a pretty big

responsibility and he wasn't necessarily anticipating it. It happened fairly quickly. And four

years later at 33 is leading a church of 4,500 people in two locations just outside of Dallas, Texas.

It's called Valley Creek Church.

And John is one of the youngest mega church pastors in North America. In fact I think I've had them both

on the podcast so far. If you go way back to episode 17 you will meet Josh

Gagnon who pastor's next level church I think he's a year older than John maybe up in new

England which again is an incredible story a place where churches don't grow that's

episode 17 so uh... john and josh have both been guests on the podcast.

And my conversation today with John,

I think is fascinating on a number of different levels.

Number one, it's just like, okay,

how do you become the pastor of something that big that young?

Secondly, he is really doing a great job and their whole team is of

actually reaching under 30s and it is a very interesting approach to leadership. In fact,

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