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The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

CNLP 779 | Preaching at A Rave: Luke LeFevre + Daniel McLeod on Gen Z's Bold Faith and How to Use Gen Z's Gifts at Your Church

The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

Carey Nieuwhof

Business, Management

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 15 January 2026

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

Even as teenagers, Gen Zers Luke LeFevre and Daniel McLeod were preaching at their high school and at raves. They share why Gen Z is so bold, what's creating the surge in church attendance, and why so many Gen Z are not using their gifts in local churches, and how to change that.

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0:00.0

The Art of Leadership Network.

0:02.9

Right now, happy.

0:03.9

Which I would go, the way you kill that is to go, we have to bring this inside the local church, though.

0:09.2

Of like, I think one way you could kill the organic nature of that would be to go, we want to make this a ministry of our church.

0:20.7

Welcome to the Carrie Newhouse Leadership podcast. It It's Carrie here and we're continuing our church

0:25.0

trend series. This is part three. It's all about Gen Z. Why is their faith so bold? How do you use

0:30.9

their gifting at your church? You know, you probably, even if you're a small church, you probably

0:34.4

have Gen Z at your church. How do you utilize their gifting? They're an incredibly gifted generation. So I sit down to talk about that with Luke Lefeber and

0:43.0

Daniel McLeod. And we shot this in person in Nashville, actually Franklin, Tennessee, where I spent

0:50.1

a month while we were filming the series. We had a lot of fun together. And you know what's really cool?

0:55.3

For those of you who might be Gen Z, Gen Z, all the stuff about Gen Z. I ran in to Lute at a mall,

1:02.0

the factory of Franklin a couple days after we shot this. And you know who he was meeting with?

1:06.7

His pastor, that probably is my age and stage in life. And that's the thing about

1:11.7

Gen Z that a lot of people don't realize they actually really love spending time with older

1:17.1

generations. So if you're Gen X or your boomer or even an older millennial, Gen Z really

1:22.4

want your wisdom. So before we dive into the interview, a little bit about Luke. Over the past

1:26.6

decade, Luke Lefevre

1:27.8

has spoken to millions of people around the world, led thousands to faith in Christ. He is the author

1:32.7

of the book Holy Unto the Lord, rediscovering the joy of holiness. He lives with a desire to see

1:39.9

revival in the church and the gospel reach the ends of the earth. We're going to talk about

1:44.0

preaching at a wave too, which is a lot of fun. And I've also got Daniel McLeod. He is the founder

1:48.8

and president of Jesus mission that exists to awaken the next generation to the supernatural

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